Hi. According to ASME Section-IX SFA5.5,Table-2 E-9018G,Chemical Composition shall be as follows.(Also pls.find the attached file of pages) Mn-1.00Min Si-0.8Min Ni-0.5Min Cr-0.3Min Mo-0.2Min Also,See the Note-h given below the table-2 on SFA5.5. Note "h". In order to meet the alloy requirements of the "G" group, the undiluted weld metal shall have the minimum of at least one of the elements listed in this table. Additional chemical requirements may be agreed to between supplier and purchaser. So according to the above,Your supplier PQR is acceptable,Because Mn and Ni are exceeded the minimum requirements of E-9018G specifications. The below extraction of ASME Section -IX essential variable for filler metal-QW404.5 may be useful for your reference.
QW-404.5 The weld metal chemical composition may be determined by any of the following: (a) For all welding processes - from the chemical analysis of the weld deposit taken from the procedure qualification test coupon. (b) ForSMAW, GTAW, and PAW-from thechemical analysis of the weld deposit prepared according to the filler metal specification, or from the chemical composition as reported either in the filler metal specification or the manufacturer's or supplier's certificate of compliance. (c) For GMAWandEGW- from the chemical analysis of the weld deposit prepared according to the filler metal specification or the manufacturer's or supplier's certificate of compliance when the shielding gas used was the same as that used to weld the procedure qualification test coupon. (d) For SAW - from the chemical analysis of the weld deposit prepared according to the filler metal specification or the manufacturer's or supplier's certificate of compliance when the flux used was the same as that used to weld the procedure qualification test coupon. In lieu of an A-Number designation, the nominal chemical composition of the weld deposit shall be indicated on the WPS and on the PQR. Designation of nominal chemical composition may also be by reference to the AWS classification (where such exists), the manufacturer's trade designation, or other established procurement documents. Thanks & Regards, (karthik)
Karthikeyan.S QA/QC Manager Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd. 379,Moo6,Soi8,Nikhomphatana, Rayong-21180, Thailand. Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off) Fax: 0066 38 897034 Hand Phone: 0066 892512282
--- On Tue, 8/24/10, aly mhaskar <mhaskar_aly@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: aly mhaskar <mhaskar_aly@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [MW:6670] What is the Filler metal to weld Base metal (SA516 Gr 60) to achieve weld metal tensile properties after Normalization+ Stress Relieving
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 12:25 PM
Dear Mr. Karthik / Raghuram bathula My Question is whether the filler metal (SMAW with E9018-G; SFA 5.5; A=10; F no. 4 & SAW with F9P6 EG F3; SFA 5.23; A=10; F no. 6) is acceptable to the base metal (SA516 Gr 60) as weld metal chemical properties(C=0.06%, Mn=1.37%, Si=0.24%, S% <0.005, P=0.014%, Mo=0.48%, Ni=0.82%, Cu=0.13%.) are not meeting the SA516 Gr60 requirements. Aly Kuwait
From: Karthik <karthik6684@yahoo.com>
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, August 24, 2010 7:32:00 AM
Subject: Re: [MW:6667] What is the Filler metal to weld Base metal (SA516 Gr 60) to achieve weld metal tensile properties after Normalization+ Stress Relieving
| Hi, I found the WPS&PQR from your Contractor have used SA516 Gr.&0(P.No.1,Gr.2) but your actual material in production is SA516 Gr.60(P.No.1,Gr.2). Change in Material Group No.is a Supplementary Essential Variable for SMAW and SAW Processes as per QW253 and QW254. Please find below the extarction from ASME Section -IX-QW403.5 for your reference. QW-403.5 Welding procedure specifications shall be qualified using one of the following: (a) the same base metal (including type or grade) to be used in production welding (b) for ferrous materials, a base metal listed in the same P-Number Group Number in table QW/QB-422 as the base metal to be used in production welding (c) for nonferrous materials, a base metal listed with the same P-Number UNS Number in table QW/QB-422 as the base metal to be used in production welding For ferrous materials in table QW/QB-422, a procedure qualification shall be made for each P-Number Group Number combination of base metals, even though procedure qualification tests have been made for each of the two base metals welded to itself. If, however, two or more qualification records have the same essential and supplementary essential variables, except that the base metals are assigned to different Group Numbers within the same P-Number, then the combination of base metals is also qualified. In addition, when base metals of two different P-Number Group Number combinations are qualified using a single test coupon, that coupon qualifies the welding of those two P-Number Group Numbers to themselves as well as to each other using the variables qualified. This variable does not apply when impact testing of the heat-affected zone is not required by other Sections.
So,If impact testing is required in your case,your contractor shall do supporting PQR with the actual production material (SA516 Gr.60) otherwise the exising WPS and PQR of your contarctor is acceptable.
Thanks & Regards, (karthik)
Karthikeyan.S QA/QC Manager Getabec Energy Co.,Ltd. 379,Moo6,Soi8,Nikhomphatana, Rayong-21180, Thailand. Phone: 0066 38 897035-8 (Off) Fax: 0066 38 897034 Hand Phone: 0066 892512282
--- On Tue, 8/24/10, Aly <mhaskar.aly@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Aly <mhaskar.aly@gmail.com>
Subject: [MW:6663] What is the Filler metal to weld Base metal (SA516 Gr 60) to achieve weld metal tensile properties after Normalization+ Stress Relieving
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, August 24, 2010, 1:51 AM
Dear All, We are getting Heads for pressure vessels from Supplier in Saudi, The head requirements are as follows: Head: 28mm thk; SA516 Gr 60, NACE MR 0175 & HIC tested NACE TM 0284 Construction Code ASME SEC VIII Div 1, E2007 Ad2009. Type of Head Ellipsoidal with chordal seam (U stamped) Service For Pressure vessel in Sour Service HT: Normalization at 910deg C for after forming & SR at 610 deg C along with vessel. Chemistry restriction by Client: C= 0.06% Si=0.24%, S= 0.007 & P=0.015, Hardness 200BHN Simulation Testing for HT (NR+SR) on test plate required. Now the supplier has submitted me WPS / PQR for welding chordal seam of head for my review, the details of PQR as follows: Base metal SA516 Gr70; 90mmthk SMAW with E9018-G; SFA 5.5; A=10; F no. 4 SAW with F9P6 EG F3; SFA 5.23; A=10; F no. 6 HT= NR+SR The weld metal composition achieved on PQR for SAW process are C=0.06%, Mn=1.37%, Si=0.24%, S% <0.005, P=0.014%, Mo=0.48%, Ni=0.82%, Cu=0.13%. Tensile& bend test meeting requirements of Base metal. My Question is whether the proposed filler metal is acceptable to this base metal (SA516 Gr 60) as per ASME SEC IX as weld metal chemical properties are not meeting the base metal requirements. Thanks for co operation in this regard Aly Kuwait |  |  -- To post to this group, send email to materials-welding@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to materials-welding-unsubscribe@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group's bolg at http://materials-welding.blogspot.com/ The views expressed/exchnaged in this group are members personel views and meant for educational purposes only, Users must take their own decisions w.r.t. applicable code/standard/contract documents.
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