Tuesday, September 22, 2009

[MW:3273] Re: [MW:/] Re: 3238] Shelf life of Low hydrogen electrodes

Friends,,
Greetings, first of all. Regarding your question, we have:
 
o. Electrodes coated low hydrogen (E-XXX8), the recommended storage for one year at room temperature, but its packaging is in perfect conditions and for use must be heated to condition 5. (350 ° C for 120 min. Maximo .... Lincoln Electric).
 
o. If the electrodes have been stored in an environment, closed room with light that increases the temperature at about 10 ° C (+ - 33 + 10) the electrodes can be stored over a year.
 
o. In the specific case, storage of 2 years or more, do not know the storage conditions before use should be reviewed, if they have some moisture, only, appearance of darker coating can be resected (Con. 5) and used, Staying in furnaces with 20 to 30 ° C above the ambient temperatures. Always with the view of the welder and review of test cords.
 
o. If the coating has physical deterioration, cracking, loosening, pollution, the electrode should be discarded.
 
Friends, I hope I have answered your question,



De: Shashank Vagal <nach_sam@yahoo.com>
Para: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Enviado: martes, 22 de septiembre, 2009 0:57:57
Asunto: [MW:3271] Re: [MW:/] Re: 3238] Shelf life of Low hydrogen electrodes

Raj,
Thanks, that is interesting. Such practical approaches borne out of experience are very useful guidelines.
SV

--- On Tue, 22/9/09, rajagopal kannan <rajagopal.kannan@gmail.com> wrote:

From: rajagopal kannan <rajagopal.kannan@gmail.com>
Subject: [MW:/] Re: 3238] Shelf life of Low hydrogen electrodes
To: materials-welding@googlegroups.com
Date: Tuesday, 22 September, 2009, 9:50 AM

Dear Shasank,
As stated in this tread earlier, ASME Sec. IX code does not state anything about this. we have to go by tthe manufacturer's instruction only.
But, I have come across a practice to test its usability. But I can't provide you any type of written reference. It was found in one of the vendor's system procedures.

Electrodes considered as old, which doesn't loose flux when dropped vertically from 1 meter height from ground is suitable for welding.

You can try this.
Thanks and Best Regards,
K.Rajagopal


 
On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Shashank Vagal <nach_sam@yahoo.com> wrote:
Hi,
All Ok and accordingly noted. How about the shelf life, if the packing is not damaged, do we follow manufacturer's instructions or is there any expiry date for it? What is the general approach here, in absence of anything else?
Regards,
Shashank Vagal

--- On Thu, 17/9/09, claes.gillenius@esab.se <claes.gillenius@esab.se> wrote:

From: claes.gillenius@esab.se <claes.gillenius@esab.se>
Subject: [MW:3240] Re: 3238] Shelf life of Low hydrogen electrodes Date: Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 4:11 PM



If the electrodes are packed in air tight packages they can be used right away. If not, redry the electrodes in the way the manufacturer recommends, normally at a temperature around 300 - 350 °C.
Air tight packages are for example vacuum packages. If such a package is damaged and the vacuum lost, redy the electrodes. Redrying returns the electrodes to it´s original state.

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"Bathula Raghuram (Mumbai - PIPING)" <R.Bathula@ticb.com>
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Consult the consumable manufacturer, may be shelf life revalidated with additional testing. Code does not specify the shelf life, but the manufacturer does.



From: materials-welding@googlegroups.com [mailto:materials-welding@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ravindra T
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[MW:3238] Shelf life of Low hydrogen electrodes

 
Dear All
 
Our contractor has brought low hydrogen electrodes (E 7018 & 8018) which are manufactured in 2007 for welding station piping in one of our intermediate pump station of our cross country pipeline project. I would like to know whether these electrodes can be used now?. Is there any reference in ASME code regarding the expiry/ shelf life of Electrodes?
 
Please advise me in this regard.
 
Thanking you all in advance
 
Ravindra
Senior Project Engineer






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